We caught up with the brilliant and insightful Marni Mae Pogachefsky a few weeks ago and have shared our conversation below.
Hi Marni Mae, thank you for joining us today and sharing your experiences and acquired wisdom with us. Burnout is a huge topic these days and so we’d love to kick things off by discussing your thoughts on overcoming or avoiding burnout
Hey team, wow—it’s so great to be connecting with you all!
Thank you so much for having me and for creating this platform. I love conversations like this, and burnout is actually one of my favorite topics—because it was one of my greatest teachers.
Burnout Isn’t Just Something to Fix—It’s an Invitation
I’d love to start by defining burnout because so many of us experience it but don’t always recognize the signs.
Burnout isn’t just about being tired or overworked—it’s a state of energetic, emotional, and physical depletion that happens when we operate out of alignment for too long.
It’s not just working too much—it’s working in ways that don’t match your true energy, purpose, or values. And when we do that for too long, our body, mind, and spirit start sending us signals:
🔹 “Something isn’t working.”
🔹 “You are pushing too hard in the wrong direction.”
🔹 “You are pouring energy into something that is no longer sustainable.”
But most of us don’t listen until we have to.
Appreciate the insights and wisdom. Before we dig deeper and ask you about the skills that matter and more, maybe you can tell our readers about yourself?
I’m Marni Mae, and my mission is to keep the energy fields of leaders, healers, and visionaries clear and aligned so they can continue shifting the paradigm. I do this through energetic clearing, sound healing and music, and transformational coaching. Additionally I work in corporate settings to support with burnout and stress management by applying ancient wisdom to modern day challenges.
One of my most special offerings is what I like to call Soul Songs—personalized, channeled sound healing transmissions. I think of it like an Icaro- a Quechua word that refers to a magic song or healing song in South America.
Back in the day ayahuasqueros (the shamans who work with Ayahuasca) would take plant medicine on behalf of their patients (patients didn’t drink the medicine) in order to receive and channel these healing songs that would be medicine for the person coming to them. I believe that everything is frequency / energy – and sound is also frequency. Each of us has our own unique frequency and thus unique sound / song. Just like our bodies benefit from tune-ups, so do our spirits. Through Soul Songs, I meditate and listen for the unique vibrational song for an individual’s spirit in that moment. I pull it in and share it with them offering a deeply transformative and intimate energetic tune up.
I am a recovering business consultant who left the corporate world after experiencing burnout myself. What was originally planned as an eight-month journey of self-discovery has now become a lifelong path—I’ve spent over nine years traveling the world, studying with indigenous wisdom keepers, energy healers, and transformational leaders to understand the intersection of science, spirituality, and success.
Through my work, I help high-achievers and creatives clear energetic blocks, activate their gifts, and integrate ancient wisdom into modern challenges. This takes form through:
* Community courses & workshops (Energetic Reset, Awakening the Inner Healer, Orgasmic Breath)
* 1:1 coaching & energetic clearings
* Executive coaching & burn out prevention and stress management education
* Soul Songs—custom channeled sound healing for deep energetic recalibration
* Sound healing & transformational music under Sisters Divine
* Healing frequency education & integration for musicians and producers
I’ve spent years studying with masters across yoga, shamanism, sound healing, and modern psychology, so my clients don’t have to—unless they want to! I help bridge the gap between ancient wisdom and modern leadership, guiding people to master their energy so they can master their lives.
Right now, I’m excited about:
🔥 My latest music releases—Sita Rama Heart healing, 639HZ. The song combines healing frequencies, mantra, and dance music for powerful energetic shifts and makes healing frequencies accessible through dance music!
🎶 SOUL SONGS – & producers who want to integrate healing frequencies into their music (coming soon!).
💫 A resource for musicians & producers who want to integrate healing frequencies into their music (coming soon!).
✨My energetic evolution community- where I bring people together to energetically reset and learn skills to awaken our inner healers!
Creating and utilizing music for healing lights me up and I could geek out about it for ages! Recently, I’ve been going down the rabbit hole and creating music that infuses sound healing principles and healing frequencies with dance and pop music, so that these healing frequencies can be more accessible to all! After studying and teaching healing and mysticism around the world for the last 9 years – I am clear that Music and Sound are the most powerful healing tools we have!
Looking back, what do you think were the three qualities, skills, or areas of knowledge that were most impactful in your journey? What advice do you have for folks who are early in their journey in terms of how they can best develop or improve on these?
Looking back, these three pillars have been the most impactful in my journey:
1. Transformation & The Pillars of Leadership
True transformation is an inside job. The people I work with are already powerful—but we fine-tune their frequency so they can operate from a place of clarity, ease, and alignment.
Leadership isn’t just about outward success—it’s about energetic responsibility and mastering the inner game to create impact without burnout.
🔥 Advice: If you want to lead in any capacity, start by leading yourself. Master your energy, and everything else follows.
2. Patience & Faith
Transformation isn’t instant. We’re conditioned to look for quick fixes, but real, lasting change comes from trusting the process and showing up consistently.
I had to unlearn corporate urgency and replace it with deep trust—learning to move in divine timing instead of external pressure. My shaman mama, Mama Rosa, explains that there are 2 key pillars to participating in the ancestral wisdom, and they are Patience & Faith!
🔥 Advice: If you feel stuck, keep moving—even if it’s slow. The energy you put in always compounds.
3. Antifragility
Instead of fearing change or discomfort, I learned to use challenges as fuel for expansion.
Every initiation—burnout, transitions, financial struggles—made me stronger, clearer, and more aligned with my path.
🔥 Advice: Shift from seeing obstacles as problems to seeing them as training for the next level of your evolution. Trust the process and lean in to the present moment. Because it is happening for you and what’s on the other side is better than you can even imagine!
How would you describe your ideal client?
My ideal client is a world changer and change agent. Someone who knows they are here to create impact and shift paradigms—and they realize no one is here to do that alone!
They may feel like something is blocking them from their next level and they could use support shifting it. They are leaders, visionaries, healers, and creatives who have already achieved success in some form but are seeking deeper alignment, energetic clarity, and transformational expansion.
They are:
✨ Open-minded & curious – They are willing to explore new ways of thinking and being. Even if they don’t fully understand energy work or sound healing yet, they are open to the idea that transformation happens on multiple levels—including mentally, physically, and energetically / vibrationally.
🔥 Committed to their growth – They’re not just looking for quick fixes; they want deep transformation and are willing to do the inner work.
💫 Impact oriented & creatives – They might be entrepreneurs, coaches, healers, artists, or executives who are ready to amplify their impact without burnout.
✨ Energetically aware – They understand (or are open to understanding) that everything is frequency, and they are ready to work on an energetic (as well as practical) level to unlock new levels of success, clarity, and ease.
🌿 Curious about ancient wisdom & energetic mastery – They are drawn to the fusion of science and spirituality, integrating timeless wisdom into modern day challenges and life.
I work best with those who are ready to shift from force to flow— from competition to collaboration. Those who are tired of pushing through blocks and instead want to align their energy so everything clicks into place effortlessly. My work helps them clear what’s in the way, tune their frequency, and activate their highest potential—whether in their career, creativity, relationships, or personal transformation.
Whether they are corporate leaders needing energetic recalibration, creatives looking to unlock their next level of expression, or seekers ready to reconnect with their true power, my work helps them clear what’s in the way and activate their highest potential.
✨ Are you feeling the call? Let’s work together to c0-create magic in the world!
Contact Info:
- Website: https://marnimae.com
- Instagram: @marnimaehem, @sisters__divine, @the_basic_bruja
- Facebook: https://facebook.com/marni.pogachefsky
- Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marni-pogachefsky-24271bb
- Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sisters.divine
- Other: spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2KiqMorUEWeJgrfuFVJznn?si=_TDH0IRORUitCPavEVUXqQ
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